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All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on youtube how long gone the queen is almost dead them jeans jason stewart live from new york it's how long gone what the fuck is up bro how you feeling oh Awesome, but better than I think I should be feeling. Okay. I did do a good amount of drinking last night. Yeah, you did. I was witness to the litmus, as they say. But I feel like you've been up and at them. I feel like you maybe had a breakfast moment. Well, yeah, I just, I mean, I had some cold brew, a little yogurt. It wasn't really much, you know. It was hard because of my Parmesan and fish diet. I had to resist my urge to get a classic New York City bacon, egg, and cheese for breakfast. I thought maybe you would break your own rules and get a nice stack of flapjacks at the diner or something. Well, I mean, that would technically fit into the diet, Chris. There's no cheese or meat in flappies, but I don't know. Okay, well. We'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. I'm just kind of doing beverages. I got kombuchas. I got my athletic greens, AG1. i even got a taika cold brew just uh a walk down memory lane for um so i have like nft coffee all kinds of stuff is going through my veins right now i wonder i wonder if and i wonder how the nft coffee prices that take is fucking good that's the thing it does get you jack it's expensive as hell it's nft related it's dow coffee but at the end of the day god damn it if it ain't one of the better

Cold, canned coffees. I don't know. Just period. I would maybe put a sleeve on it, like get a koozie, you know what I mean, so people don't see the Dow stuff. You would de-badge the coffee. I would de-badge just because I don't want people to think I'm Dow-associated, but I'm glad that you were able to partake in the event last night and that you didn't get, at least when I was with you, you weren't too twisted, but maybe that's just because you're such a stoic. uh, party veteran that you can hold it together. Yeah. I'm a stoic King. That is true. I mean, just, I think me, I mean, I'm not alone in this, but my partner and I, we both sort of have a good ability of like keeping it all together. And then as soon as you leave public domain and enter into your private world, then you're allowed to let your hair down. And when I say that, I mean, uh, be like violently blacked out drunk or whatever it may be, you know? Okay. So it's a Jekyll and Hyde thing that us toxic Virgos can kind of turn off and on whenever we want to. I understand. So did you wake up with any surprises in the room? You know what I mean? Maybe some... Oh, I wet the bed. I wet the bed. That's what you're asking. No, I didn't know if you maybe had a sheet tied around the fan, Bourdain style, anything crazy like that. Trust me. After my vacation, my week of rest and relaxation... I don't think this chandelier could hold me. I know, I know. I'm 10 over right now. That's why I'm doing my Parmesan diet. I know, I know, I know. But, I mean, we celebrated J.Crew last night with a performance from the Yeah, Yeah, Yes. Sounded great. They sounded great, dude. I mean, honestly, there was a lot of sound equipment in that venue, and it's a small venue. It's a new place called Jeans on Lafayette. Jeans apostrophe S. Jason is not affiliated, just to be clear. But if they would, like, some sort of kind of spokesperson deal, you know how to get in touch with me and I can kind of negotiate those rates directly. The only thing I'm negotiating with them is a lawsuit. That's right. You've been served, bitch. I don't negotiate with terrorists. But the...

The amount of equipment in the venue when I got there, I was like, wow, this is a lot. And then they sounded so good that I'm like, oh, okay, that's all worth it, I guess. You know what I mean? It all made sense. Yeah, there was nothing that wasn't needed there. A lot of times when you see a show, it'll be a lot of fluff and useless shit everywhere to make you sound and feel more professional, like the fake Marshall half-stack amps and things like that. But no, I think they had everything they need, nothing you don't. Yeah, no dummy cabs on stage. You know what I mean? Dummy cabs. That's what it is. I hate dummy cabs. But I think that the... Dead would never dummy cab. Never. But Karen O still has it. And she really brings it. I have to say, the energy is kind of... It's a little refreshing. I feel like you just don't see that kind of shit anymore. No, because there's a little... When you're a band and you're kind of doing a corporate show... There's a little bit of, like, you can kind of see through the smile that they're putting on. Like, well, time to put on my money-making face for the next 35 minutes kind of thing. And when you look into Karen O's eyes and see her smile, it feels authentic, actually. It feels like, oh, like, she really is happy to be playing her music in front of a crowd, even if it is a crowd of people who did not buy a ticket and are only there because of their... PR list connections, it's still a genuine smile. It's beautiful. No, I agree. I also feel like the crowd, and obviously I'm biased because it had something to do with it, but I feel like the crowd was ripe for this performance particularly. It felt like people who were actually excited to see it. Yeah, what did I say yesterday? It was a party for people from 2008, thrown by people from 2008. It was everything that we want. And there were some surprise guests in the building. Fabio, we finally got to build with friend of the show, Fabio Foran, the voice of New York, who did roll up in an armored suburban with bodyguards who did sweep the venue before he entered. Did they really sweep? I mean, I don't think it was a Secret Service level, but you know. Right, right, right. They weren't checking for bugged phones. They were just checking to see if...

If Durrell from 104th and Linux was there, because he might get to go. Not tonight, you know what I mean? But the biggest surprise of 5A's appearance was that he, I think for the entire YAS set, he was in the front row bobbing his head. Bobbing his head and maybe sparking a little bit of a spleef here and there. Yeah, I would hope so. But I like that you were like, hey, 5A foreign. Come to this J.Crew party. And he's like, all right, bet. I'll be there. And you're like, okay. And then he's like, here I am. No, I'm at this party. Sarah Mary, who does his press, texted me like, all right, we're on our way. And I'm like, oh, we're on our way. Okay, great. No problem. We'll see you guys shortly. Shout out to Sarah. I got to meet her last night as well. No, but it was good to have him in the building. It really excited the six guys that work at the Noah store. So I've earned some... All the hot 22-year-olds who work at NOAA were very impressed with that. I said hi to him. Uncle Chris really is tapped into the streets. I thought he was just making a joke. Everybody doubts me, Jason. I'm kind of sick of it. No, don't be sick of it, Chris. That's what excites me. Overall, we had dinner across the street at Indochine. Did you guys go out after? No, no, no. We were going to, but no. There was a Nine Orchard event, but there's three events every night. I have to get my sleep because no matter what happens, Jason, there's berries at 8.30. You know that. But I'm I'm a little kind of going through it today a little bit. Well, after such a grand victory last night, you know what I mean? I felt like it was a real success. Everybody seemed happy. Yeah, where do you go from here? Where do you go from here? I had to kind of – you're familiar with Vogue magazine, right? Vogue magazine, American Vogue, Turkish Vogue? American, American, American. So they're doing this thing called Vogue World, which is like a whole thing, and it's going to be live streamed. But Anna had called me.

This is the first I hear of this? I didn't want to kind of spoil it, but I have to. They were like, Chris, we'd really love for you to be there. I was like, Anna, thank you for calling me. I love the new Serena cover. Loved you on Good Morning America. I can't make it because I have a birthday party. For myself, I'm turning 40. That's on the 11th. I couldn't be back in LA for the 12th with the budget. It just doesn't work. It's tricky. They replaced me with someone. in kind of all the advertising materials. So you were just going to be an attendant of the party, and that had its own advertising campaign? Just the fact that you RSVP? Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Wow, that's powerful. And because they were like, well, it'll be easy to kind of swap you out because you guys have such similar abs, they replaced me with Lil Nas X. i'm just a little bit you know i just i don't know yeah you guys you guys have been interchangeable for decades now is what it seems like right i just yeah i just don't know i just don't know if that i mean i'm still gonna live stream it of course to see like how he does or whatever you know what i mean but i'm a little bit i'm gonna be speaking to him directly is what i want what happened what happens at vogue world is it just just jennifer lawrence just walks around looking homely what happens over there i don't know exactly i think that's part of the mystery Only one way to find out. That's why I was intrigued, but I'm also still a little hurt. And I think that I'm expecting kind of an apology letter from Anna on her stationery. From the desk of A-Dub? Yeah, from the desk of A-Dub. Sorry, bro. Go for Dub. Sorry, go for Dub. But I guess I'll manage. You know what I mean? But I don't know. I don't know. Like, I'm going to talk. If you could actually, Jason. That's tough, man. If you could talk to Nas with me, I think that would kind of be a little more powerful. Because I know he listens. I did briefly say hi to him at the Tom Ford hombre event, of course. So I'm sure he's been waiting for my correspondent since then. He's waiting. Go for TJ. Yeah. He's been waiting. Because I think our last interaction was.

He handed me his valet ticket, and I was like, oh, no, I'm actually just – I was just walking out. No, no, no. We were at the same party technically. You were in a different section, but, you know. No, he was just jealous because everyone was looking at the guy from Never Have I Ever and not him. I don't even remember. God, do you – I'm talking to you. Wait, Brack? Braxton Yoshida Hall. Paxton Yoshida Hall was their shirtless. He was riding the mechanical bull, and Lil Nas X was not getting the shine he deserved. Sorry, I don't acknowledge people named Paxton. That's just kind of my rule. I don't acknowledge people named Paxton either, especially 35-year-old 5-foot-tall hotties named Paxton. Yeah, that feels like a threat to you, even though the height is so... Different. Even though I can fit him in the front or back pocket of my new wide leg J.Crew trousers. He's so tiny. I would never do that. Fuck him. Fuck Paxton. Paxton also sounds like definitely something, a name my sister would have considered for her child in the South. Yeah, the name Paxton has a lot of range. It could either be like the hot half Asian, half white kid in Newport Beach. Like, oh, that's just Paxton Yoshida. He's actually like, he's sponsored by like Baker and stuff. Or he could be like your sister's kid's name, Paxton and Braylene. Paxton and Braylene, get back. No, don't. We're going to Chick-fil-A in 10 minutes. I want to know, how do you spell Paxton with an I-G-H, though? Because that's sort of necessary in this situation. Say your sister Bailey, you know how to spell it, B-A-Y-L-E-I-G-H. You know how to spell it. Don't do this. You keep up this attitude, I'm going to add an H to it. Don't do this. Legally. I'll change your damn birth certificate. We do have a guest today, one of my favorite emerging artists, uh a band from uh chicago um their album is called blue skies it's out now uh from our friends at fat possum shorty got a fat possum they're they're they're america's leading ratty band i would say they're just that i i was honestly like i like the cover and i was like i'll check this out and it was it was quite good and i've listened to it a lot and i've turned a lot of people in my life onto it and they seem to like it too and i'm hopeful that they are certified freaks because they look like it

you know what i mean so i hope they bring kind of the goods to the combo yeah when i saw their video of them just the three of them playing it was reminding me of when the xx first emerged and it was like a guy and a girl singing weird guy in the back playing drums but not on like a drum kit just kind of like hitting a few things and a few pads yeah and everyone was like who the fuck are these people so they're sort of like if if the xx train hopped is sort of what they are okay so it's the american xx uh and they are they're in the yard waiting for the car you know it's giving union pacific okay this is good union pacific with sick melodies shout out to all my freight heads out there but yeah let's give them a jingle i think she's coming in from her tweaker house in new mexico Living off the grid. She's living off the grid in a commune. I think she gets her Wi-Fi from like steam power or maybe there's a waterfall nearby that they can sort of harness to crank the Wi-Fi machine. I don't know. I hope the signal is strong. Let's give them a call. All right. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Quince. Jason, the temps are warming up. It's getting hot out there. Summer always changes how I get dressed. I need pieces that feel lighter. more breathable, and they're just easy but still put together. I don't want to look like a slob. That's why I keep coming back to Quince. They focus on high-quality essentials that feel and look amazing. Breathable linen and soft organic cottons, well-made basics but without the luxury markups. That rare balance where everything feels elevated. but still effortless. Yeah, Chris, linen season is here. I wore a linen blazer to dinner a few nights ago in the warm California sun. But, you know, you got that Italy trip coming up this summer and quality European linen pants and shirts. Upgrade that look starting at just $34. You know, if you get a nice linen suit, a little t-shirt underneath it, some chill shoes, you're looking good, but you're staying cool. The inside of your special areas are nice and dry as you turn up with your besties. So elevate that summer wardrobe. Go to quince.com slash how long for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns, even on a nice holiday now available in Canada.

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Yeah. Now, do you love the mysticism and the appeal of the desert and the sunsets, the smells, obviously the dry heat? Yeah. That's what I like about it. All of the above. Amazing here. Do you also like that you're surrounded by people who are on the run from criminal charges? Actually, yes. Because honestly, when the end of the world happens, I'm going to be in a good spot. Because I'm around all the crazy people who know how to like... really survive. They have the extra special good guns that normally people don't have. Yeah, they have cool guns and four-wheelers and horses. I want to be around Waterworld people. I just want to be on the plane. I don't know if I've ever been around people like that, but maybe I do as well. How would you describe them physically? Or is it more of a state of mind? It's more of a state of mind, but it's like cowboy dirty desert rat, like... Little train hopper? 5% steampunk. It's not steampunk. It's like 5%. It's sprinkled on top. It's not train hopper. Listen, Jason doesn't know what he's talking about. The steampunk and train hopper are trying to be these people. This is like the real deal. Train hopper's wish. Okay, shots fired. I'm just a posh city girl cosplaying as a desert rat, but I will never be one of these true... cowboy people do they do they like do they like you out there are they like this this chick is stealing the swag we can tell shame from around here they love me because i host parties and i i have free beer and because i have tattoos they think i'm like a badass which is funny to me yeah i mean you definitely don't really look like a posh city gal you know what i mean yeah i definitely am yeah which is cool which is so what what are some posh city girl parts about you that we wouldn't normally no food delivery and uber and like like i spray my pillows with chanel like

This bitch. Welcome home, sister. Welcome home. Now you sound like me, so this is getting a little bit weird. Do you spray your pillows with Chanel? No, but I do have some multiple sheet sprays that I do. A linen spray is something people should have. Oh, my God. It smells so good. I'm like, I know. I'm curating everything at all the moods, like the lighting, the smells. You just want it to be like. a beautiful nest that we don't want to live in, like, a trash hole. Are you saying that your bandmate, Jason, lives in a trash hole? Yeah. Well, Jason's, okay, Jason's version of Chanel is a trash hole. For him, that is what he wants. I actually don't even have a place to live right now. No, it's no shame. Yeah, he literally doesn't live anywhere else. He actually is a raccoon. No, but Jason doesn't take offense to that. Like, I wish I was Jason. He can just lay on the ground with a jean jacket and he's, like, happy. And I'm like, I will do that experimentally to prove to myself I can, but I would kill myself before I have to live the rest of my life like that. But Jason's like, goodnight. Jason, I would like to ask, do you think this has to do, Jason, are you a young man? Maybe life's ills haven't kind of hidden you yet? No, but you know the weird thing? I've just turned 31 in March. He's actually an old man. I have like a seven-year-old man living inside of me, but. I feel like I'm becoming a 20-year-old again, and recently I don't have a house to live, so now I'm really embracing being outside and doing it all out there. So I just went for a run, and then I was like, I guess the... Park is now my living room, and I'm like, I'm going to do some, like, workouts, then I'll just, like, lay around for a little bit. So you're experiencing the outdoors in a new way as, let's say, a homeowner, basically, is what it sounds like. It sounds like you bought a house, and that house is public spaces. It sounds like you've rebranded homelessness, and you made it your own narrative. And I also like that Emily said, if I had to live one day the way you live, I would kill myself.

And he's like, yeah, life's pretty good. I went for a run and hung out at the park. Jason, are you in Chicago? I'm actually staying on the couch at our... drummer's house right now he has like his stuff in a trash bag pile behind those yeah but oddly the trash bags aren't mine but there are trash bags next to my stuff okay it sounds like okay well don't get those confused yeah don't get those yeah i don't want you to i don't want you walking out with your trash when you finally do get an apartment under the train tracks uh i think that the um i think that i like this classic band narrative where the singer you know is kind of doing his or her own thing while the rest of the band is forced to slum it, you know what I mean, in Chicago. This is like, so does Emily have her, do you have your own bus or van or private jet? Is this like a Mick Jagger thing or is this just living situation? Well, me and Jason are both as singers, but yeah, no, this is my living. Like, what do I live in? I mean, I know you both. Look, I understand that you both sing. I'm actually a big fan of the band. That's why we're having you on the show. But you're behaving differently than Jason. That's what I would like to point out. Me and Jason are different. It makes us work so well together. We're like a divorced sibling. Okay, that's hot. First of all, that's hot. How long have you guys... Yeah, it seems like you guys have a very healthy, open line of communication between each other, for better or for worse. Does that sound about right? No. You guys work that shit out. If he were to accidentally step on one of your pedals or something, you're not going to kind of have it out on stage. You're going to kind of... You'll talk about it after, like adults. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, because I'm really screwing up the tone that we just, like, randomly select the knobs each night anyways. My tone is a funny example because my tone is basically, like, when the amp gets put into the box and then taken out of the box, whatever happens to the knobs is just whatever my bass will sound like that night. And the sound guy will be like, um, can you lecture it? And I'm like, oh, yeah, I don't even look at it. You can do whatever, I don't know, like...

If it's on, I'm like, it's good. And Jason and Eric are like, it sounds like shit. You guys have a refreshing approach to music and playing it live, I will say. I have to say. I'm so sick of all these dorks talking about tone and making their own pedals and shit. Get a life, dude. I actually do that. That's what Jason does. He's literally opposite. Make sure to follow my pedal making account on Instagram. Are you just a guy who likes to tinker? Is that what got you here? Or you couldn't find the tones that you needed from one of these big retailers? Oh, man. I don't know. I was building preamps. It's mostly because I'm cheap. And so I'm like, oh, well, fuck it. I can build this stuff for like... $10. Yeah, but he has money. He has money. But he spends it all on soldering irons is what it sounds like. It's exactly components. They're like 15 cents a piece. I'm like, baby, let's get a hundred pack. Let's go. He'll have like three shirts in his hand. He's like, I don't know. I'm like, just buy them all. They're $2. And I'm like, I buy the whole store. And he's like. I don't know and he just puts them all back and I'm like I don't understand this level of frugalness and like measured decision making like we're like literally complete opposites I'm like utter chaos and he's like measured careful I gotta say I like this dynamic You know, Jason and I have a similar dynamic. Jason is chaos. Jason is chaos, and I'm very logical down to earth. I'm unfortunately not a spin thrift. I spend a lot... Jason is historically cheap, but also chaotic. So it's interesting. I like to tinker. It's very interesting. I'll tinker with some soldering shit. Jason, how are you at home? I know you don't have one. Again, sorry not to dwell on that, but how are you at home? How are you at home improvement? Because my Jason loves to... clean the gutters, you know, clean this, do that, like, build this. You're not into that. No, he's into it. I'm working towards that so hard. Like, I have so many tools. I got saws. I got multiple saws. Power saws. Let's just say I have multiple saws. And Emily, are you getting in there? I live in an awkward shed.

With, like, wood soap. Okay, so you gotta, if you don't do it, nobody will. Like, I have to chop my own wood to stay warm. It's insane. Oh, shit. I know. So, like, I'm a posh city girl, but I'm, like, doing it. I'm doing the deal. Why are you doing this? Who did you murder? It's, like, the opposite of tour. It's, like, I wanted to be somewhere that was the opposite of tour. Like, it's quiet, expansive. I have to, like, be self-sustainable and, like, with a bunch of other people who are the same way. Wait, wait, wait. It's nice to be like, yeah. Is this a commune? I know how to make a fire. It kind of is. Oh, no. Don't tell me it's a commune. They don't let people with face tats in communes where I'm from. So this is an interesting development. It's called the Greater World Earthship Community. Okay, now we're getting somewhere. Okay, Emily. Okay, and you said you're sober. We're confirming sobriety. The Greater World Earthship Community? Okay. Listen, I'm the only sober person here. Everybody is wasted. It is filled with like insane feral children who are like anarchists and drunk. And then I'm like super organized, super sober, super successful, super grounded, super city. And then I'm in there like, hey guys, you want to come to my kegger? It's like free beer. And they like don't understand me at all. They're like, I don't understand how like you exist. This is fucked up. Now, are they familiar? Are they? are they familiar with the band because you like told them or do they listen to KEXP on their, on their laptop? No, they, they, they, they listen to music on YouTube. A lot of young people do that. That's fine. Literally insane to me. You have a lot of views on your, like they judge by views. And I'm like, I don't even look at, I don't even open YouTube ever once in my life. I don't even look at that. It's so funny to me the level of success that they've used the world through. I'm looking at Spotify streams and the radio. It's a whole other thing. They're like, YouTube views are up. You're famous. I'm like, not really. That's because we're boomers and we care about the radio. Thank God you mentioned that. I love the radio. But YouTube is unfortunately the future. I've been told by sources that it's going to be the only thing that survives.

It's going to be the one that makes it all the way through until the end. It's going to destroy TikTok. Do you believe that, Emily? No. I'm so angry. I just deleted all my social media, and I got a phone that only does call and text, and I'm about to switch over to it. I'm going to be like... But how will you listen to all the podcasts, Emily? Yeah, how will you listen to How Long Gone? Is this like the light phone? Yeah, it is. It's the Light Phone. Yeah, I'm familiar with the Light Phone. Shout out to our sponsor, Light Phone. You guys are awesome. I'm scared. But how are you going to communicate with your beloved band members, like your management, obviously your publisher who's going to send you all these checks? I don't understand. Email? I love this. Yeah. On my phone. It's just like a landline that I carry around with me. This is bullshit. This is just bullshit. Maybe Chris. Well, Chris is angry because he doesn't understand like interstellar telepathy, the way that you communicate with your team. Okay, it's like the Matrix. I'm getting out of the pod. I just don't. You're not ready? If you're going to do this off the grid BS, then be about it. Like no light phone, no phone at all. Be a real one. Don't half step because you're right now. I would. If I wasn't in a band. What did you do? What did you do before you're in a band? You tattooed? I still tattooed. That's the only way I make money. You know, people are like, I'm going to take a break from Instagram. I feel like that's what I'm doing. I'm like, I'm going to take a break from the. My iPhone. I'm going to take a mental health detox from my devices. It's absolutely embarrassing. I know it's embarrassing. You're talking to a couple of guys who only do embarrassing bullshit about it like this, so it's fine. You guys are in a cool band. We have a podcast. What's more embarrassing? If you want to really lay it out, what's more embarrassing? You can play an instrument. I can't even do that. I can't even do that.

I'm worthless. I mean, I can't even do it. What do your groupies look like? Oh my god, I actually have groupies now. Yeah, I'm sure you do. It just started happening and I'm really excited about the dynamic shift of like, oh, you don't have to be like a weird, creepy rock dude to have a groupie. This really hot man came up to me on a recent show in Atlanta who's from the Netherlands or something and he was just like... let me adore your body or something and i was like what i was like what are you talking about yeah he sounds like john was it john legend i was like okay i i'm enjoying this way that you're hitting on me maybe because you're not an american dude and it somehow seems not creepy but i was like what about the guy who uh who came up to you and he whispered in your ear i will surprise you one day that sounds more like a murderer than a groupie but sorry go ahead whatever I had my first one night stand at age 37. Okay. And it was really fun. And it was with maybe. Whoa. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? I've just never had one. I felt like a little kid. First one night. I was like, guys, I had a one night stand. I didn't get murdered. It was really cool. Girl power. Have you guys watched making it or inventing an Adelby? Yes, of course. Oh, yeah. Okay. Thank God. Okay. So the guy sounded like a British and Adelby. If you can even have them that. So a guy sounded like British Anna Delvey and you still fucked him? It's so funny. That's crazy. The whole time I was like, Well, there's a lot of stuff I'll do in my life because I'm like, this is the most hilarious story ever. I can't wait to talk about it later. Do it for the story. I'm with it. Right. And he was talking. I was like, I can never tell him that he literally sounds like Anna Delvey. He's so funny. I was like, you can say anything. And I'm laughing because you sound like Anna Delvey. You also sound like the guy from The Room. Do you think he knew who Anna Delvey was? If you were to say that, would he even be able to comprehend? I don't think so. So he was like, Emily.

Emily, let me get some titty, please. And you're like, yes, let's do it. Let's do this. Yeah. He was like Czechoslovakian mixed with British. Okay. And like an ex-pro skateboarder and like literally looks like a model. I was like. There we go. There we go. Yes, please. Okay. I was waiting for the good part. We found it finally. Thank God. Okay. So there's a lot of guys in your life who sleep on the floor is what it sounds like. Yeah, I only date Chaos. trash raccoons people if you got a mattress keep on pushing keep on pushing down to the next truck stop a harder floor is better for my back you know it's it's i got we have pain it's just a better way to sleep no jason i want to hear about your groupies yeah who are these popular science reading chicks who are all up on you i don't think i have any group you do This last tour, Jason had a crowd of women around him every night of this last tour. This person wasn't a groupie, but I did meet this pop star from South Africa at a festival, and then I didn't know who they were, but then I was like, they're like, do you want to go on this Ferris wheel? And I'm like, uh, yeah, sure. And so we went on this Ferris wheel, and then they're like, yeah, I'm like a sex icon in South Africa. I'm like, yeah, sure. And then we looked up her Wikipedia page later, and she's like... teaching the youth about like sex positivity and we're like oh my god imagine calling yourself a sex icon i like that the confidence it was pretty bold it was cool she was an influencer she was an influencer that's what sex icon means now what happened on this ferris wheel jason you know you know what i'm saying you got a little little ferris we danced a little bit but mostly like her and her friend were just giving me their phone to film them got it okay yeah so you graduated you went straight past sex and went straight to instagram boyfriend got it basically and i was like to the best of us i'm like i don't really like having the phone i'm like i would just kept just trying to pass it back to them and they'd be like okay cool and then they'd be like here you go i'm like no i'm good like actually thanks

The Ferris wheel ride seemed a little long is what it sounds like to me. Well, I forget that the festivals really open up your market. You know what I mean? Because then you're seeing all kinds of freaks. It's a different ballgame. Yeah, it really increases your discoverability. It's the international food court. To use terms you guys might understand as Spotify artists. Yeah. Well, you guys have more touring to do for the rest of the year. you guys were just in Europe and then you're going to do like America and probably more since you guys have been on the tour the whole time. And then now you guys have to talk to each other again on FaceTime. Is this difficult for you? Or are you like trying to get your, your alone time and your space? I'm just speaking as a Virgo where I need to rest and recharge in solitude. I knew it, girl. I knew it. Welcome home. When is your birthday? I just had my birthday. September 4th. And Chris's is next week. Oh, my God. You're also a Virgo? Yeah. This is our time. Jason, get out of here. Yeah, I'm an Aries. What about the drummer, though? What about him? He is in his room playing a skateboard video game, or he's outside on the court playing real-life skateboarding. Actually skateboarding. And he won't talk to us or respond to any text until probably... u.s tour starts and we're in the same car i like i like this so he's saying he's saying i'm back on four wheels i'll check you losers when the check comes he's all set yeah he's like that all the time since we've met like he's very like it's like the group text is me and jason talking a lot in long paragraphs logistics and then me talking a lot emotionally and then eric answering once a month with a okay We went for a bike ride. Actually, I got Eric to go out. We went to a bar the other night. His phone was ringing a bunch, and he's like, this is weird. He's like, usually it's either you or Emily. So who could this be? I didn't give my mom this number, so I don't really know who's calling me right now. Nobody's ever called me before.

Who is the tour manager that has to deal with this bullshit, or is there not one? In the UK, it's this amazing guy named Brogier. Brogier? And here it's this person, Bailey. Brogier. He's Dutch. Oh, he's Dutch. Okay. He's a killer. Okay, so do you think these people... He's sick. He's my roommate. Cool. Do you think these people like you deep down, or do you think it's just... Another job and another band. You know, do you think this relationship would continue without the monetary component? I doubt it. Sometimes I doubt it when I'm just feeling low, but I think he likes us because, like, he came out of retirement, I guess, to do it. Or he's like, I don't like touring, but he's doing it with us. Does he have some gnarly stories of the good old days when he was working with fucking pet shop boys or something? Like, you got anything good? Honestly, he does. He's got some crazy, a lot of junky stories. Like, having to just, like, wrangle some shit. So we're, like, easy for him. He's like, you guys look like junkies, but you're not. Yeah, exactly. You don't want anything, any heroin at all? We just sleep. We're like babies. We just sleep all day, and then... Like we would just want to go to the hotel and lay down again. That's not, that's you're speaking for you and Eric. I do stuff. Okay. Me and Eric. Yeah. Jason and Rohir hang out and they are roommates and they're the same. Jason is feeling the rain on his skin. He's feeling, are you, you're hitting the local, you're hitting the local nightlife. You're hitting the local nightlife. You're chatting it up with locals. You're kind of trying to see what's going on. This dick's not going to suck itself. See me at the natural wine bar. in Amsterdam. It's true. Just trying to catch the vibe. And me and Eric are like, get us to our safe space. I need to play my skateboard video game and you're like, let's see what the town's looking like with a glass of orange right now. You know what I mean? See what I can drum up on the road. That's literally my night two days ago. Go around, kick the tires. Even when he's at home, a cold orange and checking out the talent is on the menu. Jason, have you ever sent a glass of orange over to a single gal at the end of the bar? You know, I haven't, but I think I'm going to have to try to start. Wait, are you talking about Aperol's breast or whatever? No, we're talking about some skin contact line. That's your opening line, Jason.

I love a little mineral, you know. Oh, chuggable minerality. I know nothing about this. Emily, what's your cheap beer brand that you run to over there in the desert? Coors Lot? I don't know. Whatever's cold, bitch. No, I get White Claw for everybody because I don't drink, but I buy it for my friends. They seem to really like White Claw. feel like would be disgusting but it is but these people okay they respond well to the claw so if it ain't bro yeah it seems like it's yeah this says more about you and who you're socializing with than it does about the quality of the claw but it sounds like i don't drink anything I was going to say I'm a little worried about you, Emily, because although you seem quite happy, I feel like you've surrounded yourself with, like, sycophants who are looking to you for alcohol. I feel like you're, like, the cool person standing outside. You're, like, going in the liquor store, and teenagers are outside asking you to buy them a sixer. Yeah, it feels transactional almost, Emily. What are you hoping to get out of these relationships? I mean, I'm joking, though. I'm really good at hosting parties. Basically, I live with everyone here is like a hermit. And they need someone to bring them together. So I'm like the bridge. And then they're all like, oh, thank God. Now we're all hanging out. And then I get to like see all my friends at one time rather than having to go individually. Okay, hold on. You like these people, just to be clear. They would come without the beer. That's like my baggage. I'm like, I feel like I need to like host in that way. But everyone's like, this is extra. And I'm like, I just really like having. I just really like hosting a perfect party. You know what I mean? No, I like, and I like that you're, everyone's sort of like, we all need to be socialized, even though we might not feel like it at that moment. Yeah. You're going to go the extra mile and be like, Hey, we're, and I'm going to schedule it all. And we have game night, not game night, not get Emily. God damn it. You're an, you're an adult woman. I, you don't need to be playing fucking monopoly. Listen, I, I hate games deeply, but I'm. once again i'm in a time i'm trying to just expand my consciousness i love it and my myself so i'm like okay i'll play this stupid fucking like we played katan and i was like okay that's different i thought this was just i don't know what that is you're getting real what is that

That's like some Dungeons and Dragons shit right now. Okay. Kind of like a colonizing game. It's a little wacky. Colonizing game? It's one of my favorite colonizing games. It is. You're just like trying to get land and animals and everyone's like fighting for it. I'm just like, I'm not sure about this game. It's kind of the board game version of where you live. No, because... Just always getting in arguments and fighting over livestock. Do you guys have any livestock on site there or is it too dry for that? Do you? No, we haven't. What are we looking at? What's in the stable? Goats or rams or whatever that are just wild, like, running around. It's really crazy here. It's, like, really crazy. Then there's, like, coyotes everywhere. Where do you fly? Do you fly to Santa Fe? Albuquerque? I fly to Santa Fe because I deeply hate Albuquerque. It's two and a half hours to Albuquerque, and it's an hour and a half to Santa Fe. So I try to do Santa Fe even though it's like double the price. We've talked about this on the podcast before, but the Santa Fe Sunport is a very – Amazing. It's one of the best airports. Hey, why have you talked about it? Because I've been there a lot, and it's a really cool airport. It's like one of the best airports in the country. Good. I just love the vibes of the American Southwest and what they bring me and the hot springs and the local cuisine. You get it. I'm a fan of turquoise-based jewelry. Jason's more of a turquoise guy. I'm an enchilada girl as well. I'm obsessed with the airport. I love talking about it with people who have been there because it's so cute. It's one room. They have snacks for sale. Everything is $2. It's like honor system. You put money in this little box. It's just sitting there. There's no people around. It's so crazy to me. It really is like a... It feels like... It feels, honestly, almost like a private airport. Like you can pull up your car five minutes before and walk in and you're good to go is the vibe. You can. There's only three people working. Yeah, it's really great, Jason. And I think that the Southwest is, I would say, the best place in America that you can go that feels truly like somewhere else to me. Like it feels like...

really weird and out there. But it does attract freaks like you who are on the run, which gives me Alaska vibes in that way. But also, Chris, since you like it and Emily likes it and you guys are both sober, maybe I think it's possible to kind of feel high without drugs over there in the high desert. Is that safe to say, Emily? Yeah. You ever catch a high just checking out the sky? You know what I mean? Just cruising in your pickup truck? I just feel like actually happy. It's really weird. Like I land here and I'm like, okay, thank God. And I feel like grounded and normal, which is rare. As a human, like when do you feel that way? Almost never. It's true. Do you got any Native American in you, Emily? No. I'm not one of those people that's like, I have two percent. Sorry. Stop coming for the Native Americans. No, I'm white, white, white. What does your mom think about you? Or is she a crazy chick, too? My parents are, like, really accepting of me. I don't know how. I've been an insane person my whole life. I don't either. I bet you gave them a hard-ass time. I did. I was the firstborn, and I don't know how they survived me. And I was also, like, a junkie drug addict. left home i like put them through the ringer so if i have ever kids i'm i'm really scared i'm like shaking my boots because i'm like karma is gonna come for me and it's gonna be bad what were we what were we doing we were we were doing heroin or we were doing coke or all of it what were we doing all of it smart you name it except for the things that didn't exist like like or like stuff that exists now that didn't exist then like obviously i didn't do that but i would have right sure you would have done fentanyl were it available right but it wasn't but i mean like everything from like hard drugs that are like cool and then like oh i'm gonna go to cbs and just buy a bunch of chlorosidine and take the entire package because that seems like a good idea okay so you were really you were really about it you were really about it it was bad and i literally don't know how i'm still alive but yet i i'm still here by the grace of god this is a long time this is this is a long time ago though i'm a long time yeah i've been sober 16 years so a millennia oh wow very long yeah okay yeah so you just you ruin your parents life for a little while and then you kind of figure it out and kept yeah that's great that's really nice around and now i like you know

living amends. That's how it is. I still ask to come over. I, I let them be mom and dad. I like go home as much as I can. And just like, I just let them be mom and dad, you know, mom and dad doing their mom and dad stuff. Hopefully you get them a nice Christmas present. Yeah. They still do Santa. Like me and my brother and sister are in our late thirties and they're like, okay, Santa needs to know what you want for Christmas. You get three things and some surprises. And I'm like, I fucking love you. My mom does that as well. And she also does my laundry when I'm home. So I let mommy and daddy take care of me as well. Shut up, Jason. Jason and I think you guys are fucking pussies. The Jasons can F off, bro. We're living our lives over here, okay? Have fun spraying your pillows, you little losers. We're going to be over here tinkering in the garage, building shit like a goddamn American man. Yeah, I guess you guys are real men. Jason, do you know how to work on a car? Don't tell me you can fix a carburetor. No, no, no. I'll change your oil. That's about it. Get a rattlesnake out of your yard, American men. I'm not afraid of no rattler. Sometimes I'll see one when I'm hiking Runyon Canyon. Wait, where do y'all live? Where are you guys? We both live in L.A., but we're in New York right now, actually. Hashtag New York Fashion Week. It's New York Fashion Week? That's right. Oh, honey, it's New York Fashion Week. Yeah. So what does the New York Fashion Week look like for you? Are you guys strutting down the runway? Well, the streets of New York are a runway. I'm basically just getting blacked out every night. dumb parties, and then that's about it. I'm not involved professionally in any matter. I'm involved professionally, and we had a party last night, and now my professional duties are over. So I'm going to be able to cut loose by going to parties that I don't want to go to. dinners that I don't want to go to, let's not forget that, and then early morning workout classes that kind of set the tone for the day so I'm going to feel tired more than I should. You know, sober guy stuff. Aren't you guys excited to be around your fans and your beautiful privileged life? Yeah, of course. I love the fans. Chris is a little on record as not loving the fans quite as much.

We are the same. Yeah. I'm Jason is Jason. Chris is Emily. You guys are just posh little bitches. You guys know that I, wait, I have a secret to say, I also have an apartment in LA because sometimes mommy needs Uber eats, you know? And also like getting packages here is so hard. And I have a heavy online shopping addiction, which everything delivered to LA. When I go home, I'm like, My room was just filled with boxes and I'm like, so you're basically just like a real housewife of Highland park is what I'm getting. Like you're, you're a, you're a down low shopaholic bitch, which is why, Oh my God, my phone is dying. I'm sorry. I'm being like a teenage boy. We're going to need to plug the phone in teen. What, what are you buying? What are you buying online? Are you on the essence sale? Are you at matches fashion.com or is it just Amazon real, real? Yes. Real, real is one. There's like, There's this thing called Everything But The House, and it's like a estate sale online. It's so bad. But if I get the life bone, I won't be able to online shop. It's like a whole master plan for me to cut all my addictions out. That's a lie. That's a lie. I applaud that you're taking steps and at least making an effort. I'm trying. Because it's hard. It's a hard addiction to break. You know, doing something is better than doing nothing. I make a lot of money and I spend it fast. But then when I'm not making money, it's a problem. That's a classic. Not only drug addict, but tattoo artist. That cash money, baby. It's too much. Yeah, cash money, fast money. But also, like, when I'm touring, I don't have that cash money, so that's why I have to break the habit. This has been a wild ride with you two, I have to say. Wait, I know. Have we even started the interview? Oh, yeah, that's a good question. Guys, this is all it is. I know you haven't listened to this podcast before, but we just really shoot the shit. I don't care about your songwriting process. We don't care about talking about it anymore. My favorite interview we've done all year. I honestly wish they were. I feel like we're all friends.

You need to circle back. You're a sober person too, for real? Yeah, yeah, like almost six years. Are you program sober? No, no, no. Decidedly like a vegan sober where you're like, I need to stop. No, I mean, I was like an OxyContin overdose. It was pretty serious. So, yeah, I just was. You just saw. Well, yeah, but it's just weird. I didn't really know anybody at the time that was like in the program. And now, of course, I have like a million friends that are and know a lot about it and like, you know, have flirted here and there. But, yeah, it's just a weird. I don't know. It's just like a timing thing, I think. Right. There's many times. The community aspect, like that part of it, it really appeals to me. But it's just like, honestly, it's kind of like a scheduling thing. Like, it's just kind of, it's kind of intense. You know what I mean? He doesn't have time to be sober. Yeah, like, Jason's back. If I was, you know, I mean, if I, I, I, yeah, thanks, Jason. Welcome. But you don't, you don't go to, you don't go to meetings every day. You don't go to meetings every day anymore. I go like once a week or once every two weeks. I bet a, oh, I bet a meeting over there where you are is some freak shit. I haven't been. I go to Zoom only now. I fucking love Zoom. Yeah, because I would love to hit an AA meeting in Albuquerque, really see what's going on. That's real America. Yeah. That's real America. So you do online shopping and online sobriety as well. Do you miss out on the coffee, though? Like the burnt coffee? Yeah, I do. Honestly, the coffee's so bad. It's like real. But now when I have really bad coffee in a Sour From Cup, I'm like, oh, my God. First year of sobriety. Really? This spring? Take me back. It takes me back. Jason, are you a fourth wave Chicago coffee guy? Are you pouring over every day? Yeah, I'm currently aero pressure because that's my mobile rig. So when I'm on the go like this. But yeah. Okay.

So when you're homeless. Jason, does your AeroPress dangle off of a keychain while you travel around? It doesn't, but I have it in a really nice little baggie that I carry around. Okay, don't say baggie you're going to trigger, Emily. It's very small. So you travel with an AeroPress? You bring it in the Sprinter? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And you have a little hand grinder? I don't hand grind. I'll let the professionals do that. This conversation is over. It was great meeting you, Jason. I also have an AeroPress. I didn't know you were disgusting. You have an AeroPress, too? Yeah, because I need coffee as soon as I wake up, so I can't share with Jason. Also, we're in separate hotel rooms, so we both have our own coffee kit. And I got really into mushroom coffee. I'm fully... cult hippie energy over here. You're more of an Erewhon bitch than we are combined. This is amazing. I love mushroom coffee, instant coffee. So I'll like make coffee and then put mushroom instant coffee into that coffee. Is that even legal? No. I love getting jacked the F up. I'm with you. Not legal. But I agree. So what do you do, Jason? I'm a criminal. So, Jason, are you saying you wake up in the morning and just kind of hang out for a while before you make coffee? Like, what are you doing? Yeah, yeah. Well, no, yeah, like, I'll have, like, a little thought, a little think, and then I'll make the coffee. And then I try to sit in a window and, like, look out. And so, like, it's been so bleak in the hotels on this Euro tour. So, like. I was staring out at this place called Home Bargain and just watching people at 9 in the morning coming in and out of this store with home goods. I was just like, what the fuck is going on out here? A bit dreary in it. A bit dreary. It is. Yeah, that's, I mean, look, that's the problem with XO Tour Life, bro. It can't all be Bowery Ballroom, you know what I mean? We got some stinkers in there. That's the truth. And when you're trying to meditate before using your AeroPress, you know, watching common British people.

shopping for home goods is probably going to bring the mood down so much that the coffee might have a little shit. You know what I mean? I actually do listen to your podcast and you were saying that we didn't earlier, but I was in the store actually because we went to the mall a shit ton of times on this Euro tour, oddly. Oh, perfect. And I heard one of your guys' podcast and you were talking about how many fingers your running shorts were. And I seen these shorts, and I was like, oh, my fucking God. I never even thought about this. I'm like, how many fingers am I? And I had this whole, like, I got lost in there for a little while. I'm glad that we could bring you a little piece of home to the dark corners of Europe. This is why we pod. Yeah, we can't really buy off the rack anymore. You know what I mean? You're too big. I mean, I'm so, yeah, my chest has gotten so big that it's kind of, I'm kind of on the rock program right now. The dick is just too big. Like most trousers just don't work. So there's a specialist that you go to. Jason has to get, he's got a guy in LA that does zipper extensions for him. It's really done a lot for his wardrobe. It's been good for him. Yeah, but I think – I mean, honestly, it's a full-time job. I think getting clothes tailored is something that more people – It's such an affordable way to make things look better, and I don't – I kind of – when I see people wearing ill-fitting, especially if it's nice clothes, I'm like, you know, you could spend $10, and this would look leaps and bounds better than what it looks like now. $10, and we'll take care of those hips. You know what I mean? Exactly, yeah. We need to all dress to flatter our body, and I think that – especially these young people out here. I'm seeing, when you're walking around New York, young people just look like shit. They look like a fucking thrift store threw up on them, and everything is just, like, ugly and big, and I'm just like, this is the hottest time of your life. Like, if you're a 21-year-old NYU student and your parents are movie producers from LA, this is the best time in your life. Like, you're going to NYU, you're doing coke, the jeans gotta fit. I know.

That's why I only wear things that are fully approved for 50 years or more. That's what we got to do. 50 years or more. Polo shirts, Oxford cloth, button-down shirts, jeans, loafers, 50 years. No problem. We can look back forever, and there's not going to be a problem. And you got to look past the noise. You know what I mean? But I'm not as heavily yatted up as you, but I'm also yatted. And I feel like that's the only thing that takes away from my... extreme desire to be as timeless as possible in my dressing. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what to do now. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know what to do because I want a hand tattoo, but I'm afraid. You don't want to get turned down at your job interview. Yeah, I don't. I mean, I'm looking to kind of, I'm looking to break into the corporate workforce and I'm afraid that they'll bristle at my hand. Yeah. Chris, in the metaverse, you can have whatever hand tats you want. That's a great. Just get like one little rose, like one little charm. And then it's like. Yeah, it would be one. It would be one. It's not like, oh, yeah. I knew this guy. What did you say? You knew a guy is always a good start. I had this like clubbing phase when I was like 18. There we go. Where I was going to like crazy like nightclubs in Chicago. But I was like the token like indie guy, I guess. I bet you cleaned up on tail. We did. It was a nice time. This guy had a dry clean only tattoo. And I was just like, bro. Whoa. It still brings. What does that even mean? I don't. Yeah. Hand tats. Was that his only tattoo? Yeah. And it was on his wrist. Damn. Yeah. It's pretty cool that Emily has more tattoos on her hand than Chris has on his entire body. And he's you probably have like 20 tattoos. You got full. Are you full body like butt? feet. Oh, yeah. Well, that's part of your job. You have to do that, I think. You have to let your friends... But I also just like it. I like being covered. It makes me feel better about my body. How many bad tattoos on your thighs do you have from you learning? A few. A few?

I mean, there's some questionable... There's some stuff in there that I don't fully understand. You know what I mean? But that's not... That's not bad. There's some tattoos on top of other tattoos. Yeah, that's bad. That's bad. That's bad. It looks like a cinnamon roll that somebody forgot to frost. A portal to hell. I hate it so much. Jason, are you tap-free? No, I got a few. I just like having only shitty ones, really. Except for the one I gave you. I was going to ask. That was my question. It's completely bled into just a block now, though. No, that one is shitty. The other one, the smiley face is good. That's one of my best tattoos I've ever done. Oh, yeah, that one's good. Tour tat, you know? Yeah, you have to do that. It's kind of a rite of passage. But I forget because it's on the back of my arm, so I forget I even have it. I know what you're saying. That one's great. I did a little triangle with an I in it, and then it turned into a black blob. When you're doing it in the van, things get weird. You know what I'm saying? It's not the best environment. Emily, I'll get a tat from you if you can do some traditional work. I don't like all this funky shit. I don't like the cutesy stuff. I want real man shit. Like a tribal tattoo? Exactly. Snakes. Tribal tattoos, you know, roses, dice, you know, the whole like real American man shit. I'm sick of these little stick and poke. fruit tattoos. If the snake could be fighting a battleship or something like that, that would be great. I want to see two animals causing violence to one another. I think that's kind of the real... That kind of describes me. Yeah, under the sea. That describes me. Reflective of man's true condition. Now we're talking, bro. I love meaningful shit, bro. You know that. Alright, guys. It's been a pleasure chatting today. Dead, the album, Blue Skies, in stores everywhere. I've listened to this countless times. I really love it. All joking aside, thanks to our friends at Fat Possum for setting this up. Show to go to Fat Possum. And you guys have a new cover. You guys have a cover of Marcy Playground. Fatty P. Fatty P. Fat Ass Possum. You guys have a cover of Marcy Playground. Oh my God. Yeah, we did. I just saw that on the internet. Listen to that. Is it good? Jason, did you hear it? I was so hungover. Was it good?

He was like throwing up before we recorded it. We did it one time. And they're like, is this good? And we're like, I don't know, fine, whatever. And then everyone was like, this is amazing. This was the first song they ever broke on. serious or wherever we were and I was like oh no they're gonna play it so much I hope it was done well holy crap like I like it I like you yeah your approach truly is something else guys I really I really I feel like it's working so just keep rocking you know what I mean like don't don't think too hard just keep doing what you're doing and let it and let it rock every time they zig you zag and just keep going we love to see it we love to see it uh and we will uh we'll talk to you guys yes the cover is bad the cover is bad okay Wait, will you guys come to our show October 5th? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, if I'm in LA, we'll be there. Absolutely. If not, I might be in Atlanta. You don't have to come to the show. No, I want to come to the show. I don't want to hang out with you. I just want to see you guys. Thank you. No, for real. We'll come check you out. Good to see you guys. Okay, bye. Can we leave the gym now?